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Commission demands pension contribution, caps OTThe sultry summer day started out with a well-organized protest on the steps of city hall by more than 150 police officers and sympathetic members of the Teamsters, which represents the city’s general employees. Equipped with bull horns, the demonstrators chanted, blew whistles as passing cars honked as a sign of support.
Salerno: City ‘in financial peril’ At the end of a contentious seven-hour impasse hearing Aug. 31, the Coral Gables city commission made the police an offer: Contribute five percent to the pension or take a five percent pay cut. The proposal, coupled with an overtime cap of 300 hours as opposed to 600 and other assorted cost reductions, will save the city more than $1.5 million, less than half the amount in concessions it sought. If police union members approve the contract covering the period between last October and next month, it will cost police officers on average $160 per week.
The sultry summer day started out with a well-organized protest on the steps of city hall by more than 150 police officers and sympathetic members of the Teamsters, which represents the city’s general employees. Equipped with bull horns, the demonstrators chanted, blew whistles as passing cars honked as a sign of support. Former Mayor Dorothy Thomson, who later spoke on the police’s behalf, said a demonstration of this kind was without precedent. “Never was there a protest while I was in office,” said Thomson, the mother of a police officer. Then things really heated up as the protestor moved inside for the impasse hearing.
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To the Gazette, this article is one of your best so far. It is actually fair and presents both sides in a fair manner. I do have one point however you did not state (hey no one is perfect). Commissioner Maria Anderson acted like a pissed off child. She was not attentive during the police presentation playing computer games on her laptop. She wanted "ALL" of the punishment articles passed. Her obvious resentment of the FOP was very obvious. This was retribution for the FOP campaigning against her in the recent election. She put her personal feelings and anger before what would have been best for the city and its officers. She did not even have the common decency to dress properly, wearing jeans and "comfortable shoes". Commissioner Anderson, you are a disgrace to public office and your behavior was a sign of your extreme lack of character.
For the positive side, we would like to thank Mayor Slesnick, Commissioner Cabrera and Commissioner Kerdyk for being fair and reasonable in yesterday’s proceedings. You did good.
said UPDATE at 01-Sep-09 06:56 AM
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Mrs Anderson has always been anti-police. She has disrespected officers that have received awards in the Chamber by simply standing up and walking out. It is very hard to respect the position of Commissioner when the person holding it is so foul.
said Anonymous at 01-Sep-09 07:23 AM
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The sky is falling! Do my ears deceive me? The mayor admits he and fellow commissioners are responsible for not tackling the pension dilemma years ago. It's his fault we're on the verge of bankruptcy. This is an historic moment. Don takes responsibility for the incredible mess we're experiencing in Coral Gables. Last week, Don said the only problem we have in Coral Gables is a few misinformed complainers.
Only days ago, Chip was in denial of the pension crisis. Maria is so proud of the job she's done as commissioner building up the city's reserves. Ha! These three people suffer from severe lack of vision, insight and ability to understand what's going on around them. Just like the David Brown scandals, they're in denial until the damn thing blows up in their face. Then they finally see it! Folks, that's not leadership. That's called taking up space. That's reacting after the horse has left the barn. That's unacceptable. That's a tragedy which is costing taxpayers a fortune -- and it's going to be much worse next year. It's going to decimate the ranks of employees, cut programs we need, reduce services, eliminate events like 4th of July... the list of failures goes on and on and on. The winners? Those who engineered generous guaranteed pensions for life for themselves and their families. Congratulations to all those that found a way to retire with 125% of the base pay. You beat the system. David Brown is a winner. He got a huge $12,500 a month reward for life, his girlfriend got $185,000 to remain quiet about the affair and she's guaranteed a lifetime pension which falls to tax payers since the pension system is under-performing due to incredible financial strain.
said Anonymous at 01-Sep-09 08:46 AM
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The city workers and Firefighter's are next. Salerno's master plan is underway, the Firefighter's days are numbered and the city worker's are next up on the chopping block...the party is over....
said Next... at 01-Sep-09 09:18 AM
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Maria, keep walking out of places and ceremonies that honor dishonest officers like Gene Gibbons, Randy "Little Hudak" Hoff, and Edward J. Hudak, Jr. They deserve a good kick in their fat ass___, except for Hoff, who deserves a scuba diving tank while on city time. Maria, you did good and even though we did not get everything we wanted, let's kick them in the ass harder next time. Time to oil our weapons for our self defense.
said Keep Walking Out, Maria at 01-Sep-09 09:31 AM
Pat, thank you for exposing the garbage in our city. Sorry that our Commission and Mayor gave in so easily. We deserve better. Keep up what you are doing as it is the medicine necessary for this very sick patient. To see officers, sergeants and lieutenants making in excess of $160,000 did not make me feel they are underpaid. It is not surprising as this is why there is a budget deficit in PD to the tune of $ 2.5 Million due to overtime abuse. No tears for the so-called underpaid. The City's counsel, Mr. Crosland, exposed the FOP's charade, however, the commission had no balls to support what really needed to be done.
said Keep It Up Pat, You Are Doing Good at 01-Sep-09 09:36 AM
the irony is that a 20-25 and out retirement system is supposed to recognize that these jobs are stressful but most cops since they retire young go get jobs with other agencies and work on a second pension. what a deal!
said tired taxpayer at 01-Sep-09 11:39 AM
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It must run with City Managers as well, isnt he getting a pension and getting paid by the City. WOW......
said Anonymous at 01-Sep-09 11:56 AM
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Interesting demonstration..how many were really demonstrating out of conviction and how many were homeless out for a buck? We will never know
said Fed Up in CG at 01-Sep-09 12:20 PM
MEMO TO THE FOP
SUBJECT: MARIA ANDERSON Time to get a few carpet munchers, tuna-hunters, and muff divers on the Coral Gables Police Department payroll so that the diverse City Commission's ONLY dyke finally gets her sum pie. I am disgusted, disgusted, and disgusted how this City's once PROUD AND EXEMPLARY CITY COMMISSION HAS DEGENERATED INTO A BUNCH OF THIEVES WHO THINK NOTHING OF STEALING FROM THE BATTERED TAXPAYERS TO ENRICH SEX MANIACS AND OTHER CORRUPT CITY OFFICIALS AND VERMIN.
said Where's the RECALL PETITION? at 01-Sep-09 12:48 PM
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She is the worst of all as she lacks any intelligence or preparation for sitting up there thanks to the gigantic help she got from Mr. and Mrs. Sleazenick and Corn Row Wihers
said Anderson hates everyone at 01-Sep-09 01:24 PM
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I say blame the voters who continued, for close to ten years, to re-elect the crooks that sit on the commission. And they are ALL crooks! With the exception of Billy K. they have all been implicated in some sort of corruption.
1. The Mayor and the JCI re-zone so my friend Guilford can buy it scandal 2. Chip “I don’t know” Withers and the Museum money disappearing act 3. Rafael “Eddie Munster” Cabrera and lunch at Don Shula’s for secret insurance deal with the City for his pals 4. Maria “10 Million Dollars in reserve” Anderson But you keep voting them into office even after these things come to light. So whose fault is it? Yours for voting them back in!
said Who's to Blame? at 01-Sep-09 03:45 PM
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Now the City is reaping the years of apathy by the majority of its residents for not doing something sooner. The City is in a financial mess; even the City manager admits it. There is ZERO credibility in the elected officials, as they have been involved in dubious activities themselves, and have been covering up for each other and their cronies for years. The City has lost its luster of being a first class municipality. Under their watch this City’s reputation has literally gone down the drain. Heck even the City of Miami, with all its political fiascos, looks better than Coral Gables. The irony in all this is that this commission came into power when Gables, in my opinion, was THE premier City in Florida. They came in because there was a presumed “arrogance” in the previous commission. Well my friends, who’s is arrogant now? They have ruined this City with their mismanagement and continuous cover ups. They have no one to blame but themselves for the current state of affairs. And no, I am not referring to Mr. Brown and his one of many ex mistresses or the goings on at the Public Works Dept.
said Such a Shame at 01-Sep-09 04:00 PM
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Mayor Sleazenick, will you be publicly apologizing to Mr. Felix and Mr. Gonzalo Sanabria, whom you dismissed and spread many, many untrue and slanderous assertions about in support of Ms. Maria "$10 million reserves" Anderson's re-election?
Why hasn't anything been done about ANYONE in connection with the missing $10 Million Reserve that The Miami Herald and Ms. Anderson touted just a few months ago? When will Mr. Salerno HIRE Mr. Pardo and Mr. Sanabria's advisors, since they knew and explained what was going on with Coral Gables Pensions? When will Mayor Sleazenick and the entire City Commission RESIGN?
said David Brown (Olga call me, I need a good draining) at 01-Sep-09 05:13 PM
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Enough of being apologetic…. Enough defending of your salaries…. You Earn Them!!
I believe the individuals of the Coral Gables Police Department and Coral Gables Fire Department did not pursue their career path based on salary… I am sorry to all of those people who spent tens/hundreds of thousands of dollars on a college degrees and don’t even sniff a $100,000.00 salary (you can always make a career chenge and apply when applications open up). Jealousy spewing venom and envy won’t cure it; you can always apply later. That is not a policeman’s or fireman’s fault, so don’t blame them. Contracts are negotiated, agreed to and signed. Both parties know what they are getting into long ahead of time. If the city is prospering and making money why do they have to spend every penny of it? Why isn’t saving for a rainy day done. Time and time again this city has spent money on lawsuits, settled when they never should have entered litigation and made windfall profits for cronies and friends. Examples – Biltmore Hotel, Country Club, Museum, Sex Scandals and my favorite the pick-up truck ban…. Let’s keep throwing money at that cash cow; I wonder who gets the proceeds from that one. I have used our wonderful Police Department and Fire Department in the past. Their performance was nothing but exemplary. You have a PD Unit of Fire Truck in minutes. Ever tried to get a building permit?? Let’s see, you hit a roadblock at every turn. Examples – Peter “Self Proclaimed Super Engineer” Iglesias who loves the sound of his own comments, Elizabeth “Only I can Interpret the CODE” Gonzalez, Manny “Full of Emotion” Lopez, Carlos “Why Do We Need a City Architect” Mindreau… This group’s number one goal is to wreak havoc on your life, cost you time and money. I think they get paid pretty well to do it too… If only the building Department was Performance based pay. Don’t get me wrong, there are individuals within the Building Department that do well for the citizens. There were also people in the Building Department who did well and were let go for doing a good job…. Shame shame!! How about the Historical Department, why does the Director need a take home car at our expense? Is she a department head?? Is she even entitled to one? I hear she is connected to the mayor via friendship with the mayor’s daughter. It’s amazing how long it takes to get something out of that department. Must be the long lunches and extended vacations! OK, I am off of my soap box. Just want people to realize that sometimes you get what you pay for and sometimes you just get... Finally, the argument of there a people willing to do the job for half the salary is futile. In actuality they do start at half the salary when they are hired. As the years pass they get raises (by promotions, longevity, merit or appointment) and eventually end up making more money. So that is a baseless argument… Thanks CGPD and CGFD!!! Love your #1 Fan!!!
said Enough Defense, Time for some OFFENSE!!! at 01-Sep-09 06:55 PM
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To the many well intentioned people who are clearly well informed by their comments and comparisons of numbers. Keep it simple ant tell these thieves that you will not accept an increase in the millage rate. The city "experts' must find a way to live within their means.
I think most citizens would be very happy to have the same salary, income or investment return this year as last year. We have all had to figure out a way to live with less money. Tell these thieves to do the same. No tax increase. Each commissioner has worked through at least 7 budgets and the new city manager has dealt with more than 20 budget cycles. They are experts so tell them to figure it out. No tax increase!!!
said big can of W____A__ at 01-Sep-09 07:35 PM
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As a former proud member of the Police Department I feel embarased and ashamed at the the way we conducted ourselves at City Hall. To bring in a BUNCH of Homeless people give them F.O.P. Coral Gables Police shirts was the worse thing we could have done. This was the most STUPID move our organization has ever done.
said Anonymous at 01-Sep-09 09:32 PM
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Thank you anonymous (Pablo) your ISP is showing ..you may want to cover your tracks better next time
said Thank you anoymous at 01-Sep-09 10:08 PM
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Enough of being apologetic…. Enough defending of your salaries…. You Earn Them!!
I believe the individuals of the Coral Gables Police Department and Coral Gables Fire Department did not pursue their career path based on salary… I am sorry to all of those people who spent tens/hundreds of thousands of dollars on a college degrees and don’t even sniff a $100,000.00 salary (you can always make a career chenge and apply when applications open up). Jealousy spewing venom and envy won’t cure it; you can always apply later. That is not a policeman’s or fireman’s fault, so don’t blame them. Contracts are negotiated, agreed to and signed. Both parties know what they are getting into long ahead of time. If the city is prospering and making money why do they have to spend every penny of it? Why isn’t saving for a rainy day done. Time and time again this city has spent money on lawsuits, settled when they never should have entered litigation and made windfall profits for cronies and friends. Examples – Biltmore Hotel, Country Club, Museum, Sex Scandals and my favorite the pick-up truck ban…. Let’s keep throwing money at that cash cow; I wonder who gets the proceeds from that one. I have used our wonderful Police Department and Fire Department in the past. Their performance was nothing but exemplary. You have a PD Unit of Fire Truck in minutes. Ever tried to get a building permit?? Let’s see, you hit a roadblock at every turn. Examples – Peter “Self Proclaimed Super Engineer” Iglesias who loves the sound of his own comments, Elizabeth “Only I can Interpret the CODE” Gonzalez, Manny “Full of Emotion” Lopez, Carlos “Why Do We Need a City Architect” Mindreau… This group’s number one goal is to wreak havoc on your life, cost you time and money. I think they get paid pretty well to do it too… If only the building Department was Performance based pay. Don’t get me wrong, there are individuals within the Building Department that do well for the citizens. There were also people in the Building Department who did well and were let go for doing a good job…. Shame shame!! How about the Historical Department, why does the Director need a take home car at our expense? Is she a department head?? Is she even entitled to one? I hear she is connected to the mayor via friendship with the mayor’s daughter. It’s amazing how long it takes to get something out of that department. Must be the long lunches and extended vacations! OK, I am off of my soap box. Just want people to realize that sometimes you get what you pay for and sometimes you just get... Finally, the argument of there a people willing to do the job for half the salary is futile. In actuality they do start at half the salary when they are hired. As the years pass they get raises (by promotions, longevity, merit or appointment) and eventually end up making more money. So that is a baseless argument… Thanks CGPD and CGFD!!! Love your #1 Fan!!!
said well said well spoken at 01-Sep-09 10:10 PM
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When the smoke clears, sometime in the night of Sept 8th at City Hall for the budget vote; ALL will either END or all will either START.
If it Ends, it means that the taxpayers have finally won a significant battle against higher taxes and the City and all of its employees will have to scramble and adjust to the true economic reality of whats there to spend without new taxes or fees. If it Starts, then the taxpayers and voters will lose and taxes will go up by a minimum of a half millage together with new fire and garbage fees but that will trigger the beginning of the End for those that voted to hurt us economically as a widespread demand for a recall will gain a huge momentum The police and fire are fine people and great servants of this city, but what has happened is that the City and its leaders have messed everything up so bad that no one, citizens or employees, will be happy with whats to come next Tuesday Sept 8th
said IALL ENDS OR STARTS SEPT 8TH at 02-Sep-09 10:55 AM
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Yes, by a 61 percent vote the issue of Term Limits passed back in April but the problem is that Anderson still has 3.5 years left to destroy this City and others have at least 4 to 6 years left. Thats a total disaster of a scenario since we know Maria, The Ten Million Dollar Woman, will raise anything up without any concern and so will Withers and Slesnick. However, if Cabrera and Kerdyk vote to raise these fees or taxes then they should too be recalled as we will not accept anything short of a resounding NO TO ANY MORE TAXES OR FEES , for goodness sake, what are you people thinking, are you out of your minds?
said A Recall is the only Answer at 02-Sep-09 05:38 PM
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Let's not forget the Raise that Maria Jimenez received as interim City Manager, she is now assistant City Manager, and ooopppsss, she still has that increase salary. I thought Mr. Salerno said that no one in his staff had received an increase.
said Anonymous at 03-Sep-09 07:36 AM
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Take a look at the records of how many police officers have been shot and killed and how many have been shot or injured and forced to retire, then tell me they do not diserve there pay.
ret CGPD
said Anonymous at 03-Sep-09 03:23 PM
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CGPD is the core of the value for this City but they are willing to consider accomodations so the dept. is not cannibalized or there is mass exodus.
The real problem is the trio of incompetents in Slesnick, Anderson and Withers who have just occupied space while letting Brown detroy this City for the last 8 years. Now, both the taxpayers and the CGPD are at odds because lack of direction from these fools have put us into such a hole.
said Thanks Slesnick, Withers and Anderson at 04-Sep-09 11:49 AM
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CGPD is the core of the value for this City but they are willing to consider accomodations so the dept. is not cannibalized or there is mass exodus.
The real problem is the trio of incompetents in Slesnick, Anderson and Withers who have just occupied space while letting Brown detroy this City for the last 8 years. Now, both the taxpayers and the CGPD are at odds because lack of direction from these fools have put us into such a hole.
said Thanks Slesnick, Withers and Anderson at 04-Sep-09 11:56 AM
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